June 9, 2023
An interview with Lynette Diaz, a Certified Bridges out of Poverty Trainer who currently serves as the Director of Economic Empowerment for Thrive Virginia. Can you explain a little bit more about what economic empowerment is? There are the traditional elements that I think most people think of when they think of economic empowerment. In that we're looking at how we empower individuals to be financially literate or financially capable, and how to understand income, spending and saving, understanding credit scores, understanding how to navigate systems like housing and also employment. We also, though, are looking at it from a community level perspective, thinking about the localities that we serve at Thrive and how they are unique in their own economic opportunities, and what the availability of employment options are and what the living wage options are for families. There are also things to consider like transportation and broadband internet. Essentially, all of the resources that one would need in order to navigate employment and managing one's own household. “So there's many different elements to it, but at the core of it, it's really to empower individuals to have financial capacity” Since you started with Thrive Virginia, there has been some shifting on the direction of the focus when it comes to the topic of Economic Empowerment. Tell us more about that. We're right at the time now where we're thinking about how economic empowerment impacts families altogether. We have a HUD certified counselor on staff, and we have hired a family resource center coordinator for our new family resource center that we're opening in King and Queen County. I oversee the HUD grants, the grant funding from the United Way, and now the Family Resource Center funding that we're receiving from Families Forward Virginia. We sort of did a repositioning of our theories about economic empowerment, and we've been looking at not just what we're providing to individuals, but what we're doing on a community level. Financial struggles have been linked to health issues, divorce and even violence. It really does seem to be the root cause of many things. How do you see the process of transitioning from one of financial instability to a healthier, more stable financial situation where families truly can Thrive? There's an upstream vision that I know I'm seeing in the different sectors I've worked in. It starts with really looking at what economic stability actually means. It's complicated and it's complex; and it depends on a lot of things. It depends on how you grew up, your knowledge of finances and what sort of influences you had in terms of your values and how you see money. It’s also how you see yourself in terms of your role as a citizen in a community and how you navigate those resources. It can be a very emotional thing. “We’re looking at it from a perspective that if families are socially connected to positive influences and develop and learn their own financial capability, then families are going to be healthier” Traditionally, there has been a tendency to look at just one element of a family when assessing need. But Thrive Virginia is focused now on something called The Two Gen Approach. Tell us about that. Historically, an example of how we were doing it would be in just looking at what is going on with the children in a family. So, maybe it's just looking at how they are doing in school, or how they are doing with medical resources or child development in general. Now, we're seeing that there's a big kind of pullback in looking at the entire family as a health perspective. There are initiatives. The Two Gen approach is simply looking at two generations at a time. The whole family approach, and that's something that we've been really focused on at Thrive. We have gone from looking at one member of the family, to considering the entire family system. It's about the children, but it's also got to be about the families resources and needs and assets which must include the caregivers. A big part of economic stability is looking at the heads of households and considering the relationship and how healthy the parent or caregiver is. “Otherwise, it's like you're looking at one little puzzle piece and trying to figure out what the puzzle is without any of the other pieces” Talk to us about resources beyond financial assets. One of the frameworks that I've been a big part of is the Bridges Out of Poverty curriculum and framework. The idea with this is that there are other assets and elements of resources for families beyond money. I think that's been a common go-to place when we think, how do we help families? Oh, let's just provide financial assistance. But there are other resources that can make a family healthy and well. Things like physical health and wellbeing, mental health and cognitive wellbeing. Things like emotional health that affect how well people are able to navigate their feelings and emotions. There are elements related to how well you navigate the world in which you live. Things like resources with regard to language. How you speak affects job interviews. Relating to how other cultures speak and communicate and how you navigate leaving your own bubble to go out into the world. We also talk a lot about social capital, and that's a resource that I think some people don't realize is a resource.That really means the people you have in your social network. Families tend to do better when they have reliable childcare, and that may mean they have good family members or friends who can help out a lot. That's good social capital, but it also means bridging capital, which we identify as mentors or having healthy relationships beyond the home. You have bonding capital with your family system, your core group of people, but then you have bridging capital with those who you meet out in the community who can be the bridge to you having wellbeing. So that could be a high school mentor. That could be somebody like a youth mentor. It could be a faith-based group. It could be someone who teaches you how to budget. It could be someone who helps you find a job. It could be many different things. At Thrive Virginia, we are really seeing ourselves as a bridging capital for families. We really want to be that link between what families have identified they want in life, but are for some reason having a struggle to get. “You can try and find resources to give money to help somebody get through the month, but then there's just the next month that's right, and then the next month, and these are solutions for the rest of their lives. That could be a game changer” Talk to us about what you refer to as The Continuum of Family Level Dynamics to Community Opportunities. So on the individual or family level, it's really looking at how well someone is able to manage their money and/or understand assets. But it's important to think about the community in which the family lives. If you're in a very rural community, and there's no public transportation, and there's not much of an economy in terms of job growth, it's very, very difficult to make ends meet. You're going to be commuting over 30 minutes, or you're going to be trying to figure out a work from home option, but then maybe there's no broadband internet that's reliable. We have to also consider what the opportunities are for the kids. If there isn't a parks and rec system, for instance, or if there's no reliable, affordable childcare, if we don't have after school activities or programming, what then happens to children outside of school hours? We have to also consider what opportunities there actually are outside of the home to help. “We're looking at all of the things that are available within a community, and it's really important to understand that before we blame families when they are having struggles with regard to raising their children” What are some of the solutions in communities that are so rural that transportation, after school programs and wifi are an issue? We are really digging into understanding that by bringing in the members of the community who have the lived experience with these challenges. And I think what's important is if you're going to have solutions, you have to really look at re-imagining. “It's really important to transform engagement and have members of the community themselves be at the table and offer up the reality of what it's like” The biggest solution is to adopt the theory that it's nothing about us without us, and realizing that system leaders need to listen and learn and not always just decide. Or judge. And really looking at and understanding the history of a locality and culture, and understanding things like Jim Crow laws and redlining, and how families have been moved around in a way that they had no control over or power over. And that understanding, that shared research into how we got here, I think is the first step. And then it's about really thinking about how people aren't just what they need. There's a lot of assets within communities. Oftentimes there's a lot of relationship building that happens that's natural and organic, and there's really good neighborly networks that are happening that are assets to a community. That social capital piece is the first step in identifying solutions. Oftentimes, the resources are already there. You just have to pull it out and connect the dots for everyone. Call area code 804-362-6835 to make a donation or learn more. Thrive VA's 24 hour confidential hotline is 877-966-HELP To donate to Thrive Virginia, please click here